Battery adaptation by 2028

[SkipW]

I think it’s fair to say that Scout Motors is quick to listen and if need be to Pivot to the market, after all they started out as a BEV platform but pivoted to a EREV platform emphasis. My question is, as battery technology continues to go forward at lightning speed are you designing the existing battery housing, wiring, etc so Scout can pivot to what the newest and greatest battery coming down the pike is. If vehicles in customer hands isn’t till 2028 realistically, Scout will have to at least try and adapt to new battery technology to stay relevant. Looking at China BEV’s Scout could be looking like a dinosaur by 2028 if they don’t have some planned evolution in mind. My hope is yes and we end up with BEV’s with ranges of 400-500 miles on a single quick charge by 2028. As new batteries come on board over time is there thoughts about retrofit upgrades in the future for Scout owners.

 

[Frredino101]

I doubt retrofits will be a priority for them. Most manufacturers just want you to buy the next model instead of upgrading your current pack. If the frame is modular enough it might be possible, but it's rarely cost-effective for the owner.

 

[PMurphy]

My concern (bet) is Scout will spend time and resources designing up the EREV that people are demanding now. By the time the financing/factory build out are sorted out the market will be moving on to next generation batteries and Scout could be a day late and a dollar short on both the EREV and BEV that they finally go to market with.

Consumers want what they want but can change their mind WAY faster than manufacturers can deliver (aka market pivot to smaller cars in the 70’s, Detroit was let on the dust by the Japanese). Hoping for the best but we have seen this tango before.

 

[Roger 123]

The "good" news is that no manufacturer can foresee what the battery market will be in 3-5 years. Whatever car is on the drawing board now is using current tech to be designed. It's not like Ford can come out in '28 with a radically improved EV, they have to design their '28 model car with '26 battery tech.

They will always be in catch-up mode, as these cars have to be certified and crash tested way before the public gets them. It's not like they can design a car, then at the last minute when battery tech takes a leap they just pivot and put the newest stuff in in the car. The Scout you get in three years will have 3 year old battery tech in it. When you get a refresh in 5-6 years it will also have 3 year old battery tech in it.

I think that's one of many reasons you're seeing manufacturers back off on pure EV stuff, it's too hard to keep up with battery tech right now. If you have an EREV the battery isn't as important, it's more of a novelty.

 

[joewilk45]

FYI donut labs claims

 

[joewilk45]

This makes sense by time EREV's hit the streets battery tech and charging infrastructure will make them the bag phones of the auto industry. The AMC Pacer
https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/24/its-time-to-pull-the-plug-on-plug-in-hybrids/

 

[joewilk45]

They can design EV models to the point they have structural openings made for battery packs so they can manufacture the vehicles and put packs in later so opening is pre engineered to accept larger or smaller packs Tesla does it currently. Watch a Nio battery swap video give you a better idea

 

[joewilk45]

This is why VW hit pause button because they know buy time there ready to spit out scouts drive train options will have changed as other outside pressure

 

[joewilk45]

Why buy an ERev when Solid state battery option provides better range maybe they know that and their battery plant in Canada knows it to.

 

[mcm4ss]

it is rather easy to make a pack that can be updated, modified and retrofit. Just has to be of same volts. Scout said they were planning on being end user easy with repairs, ect. I bet no matter what they come up with upgrades are always possible. Scout has built vehicles customers keep, restore, fall in love with and get attached to. IF they are indeed following the heritage then maybe, just maybe we will have an American built rig that they want you to keep. It will be so great you will get one for your wife, for your kids, for your folks. Just hoping.

 

[Hatman]

I think it’s fair to say that Scout Motors is quick to listen and if need be to Pivot to the market, after all they started out as a BEV platform but pivoted to a EREV platform emphasis. My question is, as battery technology continues to go forward at lightning speed are you designing the existing battery housing, wiring, etc so Scout can pivot to what the newest and greatest battery coming down the pike is. If vehicles in customer hands isn’t till 2028 realistically, Scout will have to at least try and adapt to new battery technology to stay relevant. Looking at China BEV’s Scout could be looking like a dinosaur by 2028 if they don’t have some planned evolution in mind. My hope is yes and we end up with BEV’s with ranges of 400-500 miles on a single quick charge by 2028. As new batteries come on board over time is there thoughts about retrofit upgrades in the future for Scout owners.

Completely agree. I absolutely love the idea of the EREV because it gives me freedom to drive. But if a solid state comes out in the near future and makes my expensive truck worth pennies, I’d be very upset. If I saw that battery solution on the horizon, I certainly wouldn’t purchase the Scout knowing it would be a terrible investment.
We know that technology will improve, and maybe very rapidly, but Scout shouldn’t be obsolete the day it is released.

 

[joewilk45]

Well once again your applying old traditions which are not in line with new traditions that's a generational thing. But VW and every successful company put a limit on tradition and profit. They had Aces in their hand now they have jacks and have decided to sit out the next hand which is wise the longer the delay and I haven't heard anything from the scout team to differentiate the forum topics. But regardless who builds EREV's just apply some common sense to the situation. Is battery tech advancing is charging infrastructure improving yes I use it . And is Ice the future or does Electric have more of an upside. I know I can't run my refrigerator with my Impala and put your money where you think the market is going.

 

[Roger 123]

They can design EV models to the point they have structural openings made for battery packs so they can manufacture the vehicles and put packs in later so opening is pre engineered to accept larger or smaller packs Tesla does it currently. Watch a Nio battery swap video give you a better idea

That's all fine and good but what is the "later" pack going to look like? Will it be VHS, 8MM, Laser Disk, 8-Track........At some point you would think everyone would get together and decide on some sort of standard, that may happen but it's certainly not the case now.

Whatever new fangled thing that is used today will be the Flip Phone of tomorrow and things are just changing SO fast right now.

I'm getting the impression from you that you believe whatever battery tech is used today it will just be a simple matter of swapping packs in 5 years when new battery tech is on the street. I don't think that's the case.

You buy a car today with a 300 mile pack, in 5 years when there are 500 mile packs out there that charge faster and have better cold weather performance I don't believe you will just be able to cost effectively swap it out.

But I could be completely wrong and am enjoying watching the technology evolve.