Production date updates: Traveler (September 2028), Terra (March 2030)

[joewilk45]

Yep and you have to drive it for four years even if you hate it that's why we have medication

 

[joewilk45]

Reservations aren't orders Ram like scout has a pretty rendering but last time I looked no one is taking actual orders. I think whoever is the first to offer test vehicles and takes orders will do well with the Erev version. But I think the Erev Frenzy dissipates in 3 yrs once batteries allow longer range. The Erev then is desirable to a much smaller market. Why own an Erev if you don't tow or have daily long road trips. So time matters as to who's first but manufacturers know EREV's aren't the long game EV's and advances in batteries are the holy grail.

 

[joewilk45]

Fast charging is coming
https://evchargingstations.com/chargingnews/geely-charging-byd-flash/

 

[Roger 123]

Reservations aren't orders Ram like scout has a pretty rendering but last time I looked no one is taking actual orders. I think whoever is the first to offer test vehicles and takes orders will do well with the Erev version. But I think the Erev Frenzy dissipates in 3 yrs once batteries allow longer range. The Erev then is desirable to a much smaller market. Why own an Erev if you don't tow or have daily long road trips. So time matters as to who's first but manufacturers know EREV's aren't the long game EV's and advances in batteries are the holy grail.

Because in the US we like the thought our cars doing anything. I may get a camper, I may get a boat, I may take that once in a lifetime off road adventure through Colorado and Utah, I may have 4 kids and 3 grandkids and take them all on a cross country road trip, I may need to take 4 co-workers to lunch.

I need to go 0-60 in less than X seconds.

We don’t buy vehicles based on what we need, we buy vehicles based on the what-if’s and right now big vehicles with gas engines satisfy that what-if scenario.

 

[joewilk45]

Many people buy what they can afford and fits their needs that's the majority what you have is a bigger garage with funds to fill it and i applaud your accomplishments. But big gas engines are not the future of the automotive sector that's all I'm saying they will exist for decades but the R&D will be driven by batteries and electric vehicles as well as robots to me it's not intimidating it's exciting to be part of the future with knowledge of the past we get to share and learn at 66 that's exciting

 

[mkennedy009]

I agree, we buy what we can afford and if that means a 7-9 year loan for a truck that can do anything, totally worth it. (said it irony) I think as parents of gen x we failed to teach the value of money. we know it, but failed to pass on the concept to enough kids.
Blame the iPhone upgrade every other year.

 

[joewilk45]

I actually have been blessed to have two daughters who have grasped the value of money and family My oldest took my wife and me to London for a week with my granddaughter for our wedding anniversary and both turned 65 footed the whole nut I said to myself she was watching so some are still carrying on tradition and nice to see them teaching their kids what we taught them good stuff

 

[joewilk45]

Here come good news for scout their range will only get better the longer they delay.
https://carnewschina.com/2026/04/22...in-2026-targeting-600-km-range-in-the-future/

 

[Knownman]

Ugh…wake me up in literally 3 years. In that time I will have leased a Rivian R2. And I bet the majority of those wanting the EREV are those who currently don’t drive an EV. You lose performance, are dependent on gas for nominal trips, and require maintenance compared to EV only. I’ve had my Tesla Model Y Performance for 3 years and absolutely $0 other than in-home charging and charging fees when vacationing. Same wipers, tires, and washer fluid. That’s all an EV really taxes you in upkeep. I tow my personal watercraft, transport my lab, enough legroom for all 5, and other than Elon and having a car that can easily get lost in a crowd, it has been the lowest maintenance, fastest vehicle, easiest and most fun to drive vehicle for me. I reserved the Traveler EV because I want what their prototype shows with the same things I’ve grown to love listed above. But a generator model that’s less quick, less EV range, likely to require maintenance, and now so far out that solid state technology will be the thing, I just don’t know if I can stay interested in an already outdated dream. The reservation $ is out of mind so I’ll just keep it for now in hopes they pivot with the times. But I can’t keep up any excitement with so many advancements that will occur over the next few years while Scout parades around their concept models that are already two years old.

Are youn trying to say that wipers and washer fluid aren't expendables? That Tesla is magical machine for sure!